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Nigel
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Hi,
I'm looking for a knowledgeable, enthusiastic person to help explain a few things about recording music on my computer.
I have been using Cubase SL (with Steinberg's MI4) and Guitar Rig since the beginning of the year, in addition to checking out demos of various soft synths. I also have a Radium 49 as a MIDI controller. However, I would like to learn more about the details of recording using these programs, specifically Cubase. I would also greatly appreciate having someone optimize the audio set-up on my system while they explain how this is done.
I'm thinking that maybe one hour/ week for 2 months would be a good start. If you enjoy teaching and have experience with Cubase, e-mail me and I'd be happy to chat about how much you'd like to charge among other details!
Thanks! [email protected]
Nigel - Wed, 29 Jun 2005 6:27pm
SPENCER
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Get protools n we'll talk. - Thu, 30 Jun 2005 5:49am
Tyler
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Using only soft synths really limits you. I know some people occasionally are able to manipulate them to the point of making decent music. But for the most part, especially demos, they're sort of flat-sounding and take a lot of tweaking. I recently bought a yamaha cs6x to overcome this problem, in addition to wanting a decent hardware synth. What sort of music are you interested in recording?

Another thing I've experienced is that confining yourself to one program, such as Cubase, is a bit limiting. My stuff usually makes it through several programs including cakewalk, sound forge, reason, etc. It's more convenient in some ways, let's you do what you want easier.

Don't get me wrong, Cubase is a great program. I'm by no means an expert right now so I can't come and help you.

What exactly is your setup when it comes to recording? For live instrument recording, all you really need is a sound card of decent quality with line-in. A piece of hardware to level your line-in instrument (XLR, guitar, whatever) is really useful. Like the one shown here: http://www.zzounds.com/item--THKMIMAB0

Some mixers can also do this and purchasing a modest mixer could help. Behringer makes some decent quality small mixers that work well for this purpose. Depends how much stuff you're planning on recording and mixing.

When it comes to midi and that sort of thing, you've got what you need. A midi controller is all you really need. From then on, it's just learning to manipulate the softsynths and learning to sequence. You get that by practicing.

I hope any of this helps. You may have known it all already but oh well. - Mon, 4 Jul 2005 6:49am
Nigel
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Thanks, Tyler, for your feedback here...it's always appreciated and useful to hear what kind of ideas/advice other people have. I'm principally a guitar player, my interest in getting a soft synth is to explore what can be made outside of just straight rock music (but still using guitar in the music). I'm not really a keyboard player, just playing by ear.
Is the yamaha cs6x a hardware synth?
If you have a $500 soft synth and a $500 hardware synth (I know the good ones are much more expensive than this), which would have the better sound?
For recording, my soundcard is in the MI4 which also connects to instruments and XLR.
Nigel - Wed, 6 Jul 2005 4:31am
Tyler
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yes, yamaha cs6x is a hardware synth.

it's been my experience that typically hardware synths sound better and are less picky with adjusting. but software synths are easier to sequence and arrange in a program like cubase. a $500 hardware synth would be very cheap in sound and in quality, likely. a $500 softsynth would probably sound really good or be very professional, considering the price tag. usually software synthesizers set out to emulate the sounds of already-existing hardware synths. my experience can be directly related with the program Reason. it has 3 gigs worth of synth patches and such. in my opinion, it is a lot more finnicky than my cs6x. there are some good sounds but you have to really dig. and it doesn't have the same sort of.. edge I guess... of hardware synths. like, it all has this kind of smoothed-out soft sound, or little tinges of bad quality. but don't get me wrong, there is always variance with good/bad.

It sounds like softsynths are totally the right direction for you. especially to experiment beyond rock music. your setup sounds ideal for this. especially if you're not a keyboard player. there's not much more advice I can offer other than keep experimenting and don't give up. - Wed, 6 Jul 2005 10:30am
User
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Hey Nigel, I sent you an email. There are some pretty good sounding soft synths. Some of the free ones are suprisingly good. I agree with Tyler that hardware synths tend to have a little something extra to the sound, and they seem to fit better in a mix, but don't discount softsynths, because there are some good ones. - Thu, 7 Jul 2005 7:53pm
The Box Drone
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I second the behringer mixer for an input... I'm running my guitars & synths into a little behringer 502 into a shitty soundcard that came built in to my monitor, and I'm getting like ZILCH on the hiss-factor... even after I've amplified my samples 15 db or so - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 8:31am
Gman
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I think it's a pretty broad generalization to say that a hardware synth sounds better than a software synth. In the end, most of it's coming from computer chips anyway, so as far as I'm concerned, it's entirely up to the individual synth.

Unless you're talking Jupiter 6 you know. - Fri, 8 Jul 2005 2:07pm
Tyler
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I was speaking only from personal experience, I didn't mean to cause an argument. My personal opinions are based on the softsynths packaged with Reason, some commercial reason add-ons, pro-52 native instruments, some others. Good stuff, but I haven't ever really been able to get the full sound I've desired from them. - Sat, 9 Jul 2005 12:40am
zINk
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Transistors sound better than microchips
and tubes sound better than transistors.
Every time space & size are reduced,
the sound quality goes down another notch. - Sat, 9 Jul 2005 8:40am
Tyler
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you people and your hate for new technology. why not just take electricity right out of it? back to rocks and sticks? I hear they sound better. is this going to turn into a debate of digital vs analog synths? - Sat, 9 Jul 2005 2:16pm
zINk
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I don't hate technology, I love it. I was just stating a fact. Sticks and stones sound great live, by the way. - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 4:46pm
Tyler
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want to start a sticks + stones project? I can play stones... - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 5:55pm
zINk
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OK! Meet ya by the fire near the old cave and we'll have a helluva jam. - Sun, 10 Jul 2005 6:53pm
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